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Birthday problems beyond birthdays

A research question to start from

How many people are needed for a shared birthday with given probability, and how does the answer change for non-uniform birthdays or triple matches?

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Why it works as a maths EE

A famous problem, generalised in directions where you do the mathematics.

Mathematics you would need

  • Complementary counting
  • Approximations with eˣ
  • Non-uniform distributions
  • Simulation as a check

Much of this goes beyond the DP course. That is expected in a maths EE, but you must understand and explain everything you use.

One possible line of attack

  1. Derive the exact result and an approximation.
  2. Prove that non-uniform birthdays make a match more likely (for small cases, then generally).
  3. Estimate the triple-match number.

Scope and difficulty

Accessible. Accessible; the non-uniform proof gives depth.

Pitfalls

  • Only the classic case.
  • Approximations without error discussion.

Where to start reading

Search a library catalogue or a university's open lecture notes for: birthday problem non-uniform distribution proof; approximation e^-n^2/2N. Prefer textbooks, lecture notes and journal articles to a single website, and cite everything you use (how to reference a maths EE).

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